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Posted 15 February 2020 - 02:57 PM

View PostChristopher, on 14 February 2020 - 10:35 PM, said:

MLB is just godawful at policing the integrity of the game.

I still cannot believe we just sat around and believed the 2001-2004 chapter of Barry Bonds.

It’s nothing new for MLB. It rode the steroid induced home run binge by Sosa and McGuire to regain popularity in the past. For MLB, any news, even bad, is welcomed in order to induce interest.
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Posted 15 February 2020 - 03:30 PM

I don't think there's much good in the illegitimacy of the past three seasons of the Houston Astros.

I don't think MLB will enjoy Houston being at the center of multiple headline-grabbing beanbrawls this season.

I don't think it's good that Jose Altuve and others -- some of the brightest and most beloved stars baseball has here and abroad -- are now cast into doubt as to the true level of their skills.

I don't think it's good that I've been thinking: Houston cheated so much the past couple of years. How legitimate is it that, 100% coincidentally, Gerrit Cole just "found" the secret to becoming Bob Gibson during that same time period? I don't know if or how Cole also cheated, but I know some of the benefit of the doubt has disappeared.
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Posted 15 February 2020 - 03:32 PM

Look up Trevor Bauer's thoughts on Cole's success.
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Posted 17 February 2020 - 09:22 PM

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Interesting point raised on MLB Now. Players are mad Astros didn’t get punished for sign-stealing scheme. But the reason they didn’t was partly due to the fact that the players union -THEIR union -would have fought it, creating months of litigation.


I think that's why you punish the players not via suspension but by voiding their accomplishing. Vacating the 2017 World Series championship.
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Posted 18 February 2020 - 08:38 PM

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Aaron Judge unloads on #Astros saying they should vacate title, players should be punished and the players will never be looked at again the same. He also doubts they were clean in 2019

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Aaron Judge was asked if #Astros should be stripped of their 2017 World Series title. “Yeah, I just don’t think it holds any value,” Judge said. “You cheated. You didn’t earn it. That’s how I feel - that it wasn’t earned.”
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Posted 18 February 2020 - 10:42 PM

There was no World Series champion in 1904 or 1994.
Add 2017 to the list.
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Posted 18 February 2020 - 10:43 PM

View PostChristopher, on 18 February 2020 - 10:42 PM, said:

There was no World Series champion in 1904 or 1994.
Add 2017 to the list.


Boston Beaneaters got screwed in 04........
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Posted 18 February 2020 - 10:43 PM

Your a Beaneater.
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Posted 18 February 2020 - 10:46 PM

View PostChristopher, on 18 February 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

Your a Beaneater.


Confirmed


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Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:34 PM

One problem I do have with the current cheating debate is that the same high-profile players (the Judges, the Trouts, the Kershaws, etc.) who are currently decimating the 2017 Astros players in public would absolutely defend them -- from a union standpoint -- if MLB were to rightly hand down severe suspensions.

In a way, the players are taking their free shots at the Astros in lieu of any actual ramifications for the Astros players. Which feels .... insubstantial and unsatisfying.
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